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                   by: Tim Randal 
                  When I first started getting active in creative 
                    real estate, my skill set at negotiating was very weak. I 
                    had done the telemarketing thing for American Express as a 
                    financial planner and had studied and learned a few techniques. 
                    On the surface one might think that would be a perfect tie-in 
                    to talking to sellers about their properties and their financial 
                    situation. I can promise you it wasn't. 
                   Yes, I did pick up asking general sales techniques 
                    like never asking close-ended ("yes" or "no" 
                    answers) questions. Also, it still works to ask multiple choice 
                    assumptive questions like "Would Tuesday at 6 p.m. or 
                    Thursday at 3 p.m. work better for you?". The basics 
                    were not enough. 
                  When I first began asking sellers what their 
                    loan balance was, I may have actually received a number for 
                    an answer 50% of the time. I had two major obstacles facing 
                    me. 
                  First, my belief system was cock-eyed in that 
                    having come from a financial/accountant type background, I 
                    knew without a shadow of a doubt that no one would ever just 
                    give me their house and that only a complete fool would tell 
                    me the balance remaining on their loan. 
                  Second, I didn't have a clue as to the right 
                    way to ask and I can tell you from experience that it matters 
                    greatly. 
                  The first obstacle, belief system, was easily 
                    overcome after I met my first truly motivated seller. Okay, 
                    beliefs systems are trashed and I must be the complete fool 
                    because that was way too easy. 
                  The second obstacle, phraseology/negotiating, 
                    is no longer an obstacle, per se, but it is still a skill 
                    that I continually try to improve upon. The two key components, 
                    assuming you have already properly established good rapport, 
                    are timing and the phrases you use. 
                  Here are some quick examples of how NOT to ask 
                    a seller what the loan balance is: 
                  
                    -  What do you owe? 
                    
 -  Are you willing to sell it for what you 
                      owe? 
                    
 -  How much equity would you say you have? 
                    
 -  etc., etc. 
                  
  
                  Now, don't get me wrong. If you use these phrases 
                    and similar ones enough times and with enough confidence, 
                    you will be able to get a numerical answer on occasion (as 
                    opposed to some of the not so friendly responses I received 
                    early on). 
                  Contrast the above phrases to these: 
                  
                    -  How much is left on the loan? 
                    
 -  So, the property's not owned free and clear? 
                    
 -  etc., etc. 
                  
  
                  The first set of questions personalizes the 
                    issue and attaches the debt, and thus the problem, with the 
                    seller. The second set of questions creates detachment and 
                    since it's no longer "their debt" or "their 
                    problem" or "what they owe", it's just simply 
                    a number and not a problem to share. 
                  Since I first picked up on this one little tactic, 
                    I would estimate I get all the information I want on 99 out 
                    of 100 calls with almost no real effort. Granted, it does 
                    take time and practice to develop decent phone skills. The 
                    ability to naturally create rapport and flow with the call, 
                    yet still get the information you want will come with time. 
                    My point is that it's important to begin testing and tracking 
                    different approaches. If you do this, you will notice some 
                    very interesting results. 
                  Here's another example when asking about whether 
                    or not the seller would consider a carryback (financing it 
                    for you). I'd suggest actually trying this one out just to 
                    verify the reality. If I ask a seller something like: 
                  
                    -  Would you consider owner finance? 
                    
 -  Would you do a carryback? 
                    
 -  Would you carry paper on this? 
                    
 -  etc., etc. 
                  
  
                  What do you think my responses will be? Yes, 
                    I know that we like to use our fancy terminology once we've 
                    mastered it. I'm probably as guilty as anyone in that regard. 
                    However, what the above questions accomplish is forcing the 
                    seller into a corner. Either they have to admit they don't 
                    understand, and thus appear foolish, or simply say "no". 
                    Which do you think happens most often? 
                  Compare the above questions with something like: 
                  
                    -  Are you in a position where you could take 
                      payments? 
                    
 -  Would it be possible for me to make payments 
                      for a while and pay off your loan later? 
                  
  
                  These questions almost always lead to a "yes" 
                    or a "tell me more" type response. You'll be amazed 
                    at the difference. 
                  These are just two quick examples of how the 
                    phrases you choose can affect your results. Take a minute 
                    to consider how many questions you ask and how much information 
                    you attempt to extract from a seller in a single call. Knowing 
                    what to say and when to say it will improve your performance 
                    more than you can imagine. 
                  I highly recommend picking up some books and/or 
                    taking some courses on sales and negotiating. Roger Dawson 
                    has great materials available on this web site... http://www.texasrealestateclub.com/courses.html#negotiating 
                    and you can visit his site at www.rdawson.com. 
                  I'd also recommend reviewing our recommended 
                    book list for materials on sales and negotiating which can 
                    be found here... http://www.texasrealestateclub.com/booklist.html. 
                  Grab some books by Tom Hopkins, Zig Ziglar, 
                    and other topsales and negotiators and begin the quest. I 
                    firmly believe no other action will make you as much money 
                    as fast as developing these skills and practicing them. 
                  Regardless of your specific approach to your 
                    business, these skills will absolutely be used in every aspect 
                    of your life. 
                  Sincerely, 
                  Tim Randle 
                    
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